She Left the NFL, Then Built a Real Estate Brand Athletes Trust with Brooke Kromer | #213

What happens when your dream job evolves, and a better one appears? Former NFL sports reporter Brooke Kromer shares how she pivoted from sports broadcasting to become a real estate trailblazer on Florida’s 30A, specializing in investment properties for athletes and coaches.

On this episode of the Second Act Success Career Podcast with host Shannon Russell, Brooke breaks down how she leveraged her NFL network, on-camera skills, and team-building mindset to create Kromer Collective, a boutique real estate team known for luxury listings, data-driven marketing, and white-glove service.
If you’re curious about career pivots, getting started in real estate, or how pro athletes use vacation rentals as smart investments, this episode is your playbook.

Key Takeaways:

• How to know when it’s time to pivot and turn a pause into momentum
• Brooke’s steps to break into real estate: shadow first, get licensed, join a team, then niche down
• Why athletes and coaches love 30A vacation rentals 
• The “NFL mindset” of team building: hire for complementary skills, not clones
• Using content + community to attract high-intent buyers
• Networking that doesn’t feel like a sales pitch: serve first, advise wisely, and the referrals follow
• Career courage: say yes, keep learning, and build a business that supports your life

Connect with Brooke Kromer:

https://kromercollective.com/

https://www.instagram.com/brookekromer/

Join Shannon's Live Coaching Experience:

https://secondactsuccess.co/experience

--------

You are listening to the Top 2% globally ranked podcast Second Act Success!

CONTACT Shannon and share your feedback about what you'd like to hear on the podcast! https://secondactsuccess.co/contact

Book a FREE Strategy Call with host and business coach Shannon Russell - https://www.calendly.com/second-act-success/coaching-strategy

Work with Shannon
https://secondactsuccess.co/coaching

FREE Resources
https://secondactsuccess.co/resources

FREE Masterclass
https://secondactsuccess.co/secrets

READ Shannon's Book - Start Your Second Act: How to Change Careers, Launch a Business, and Create Your Best Life https://startyoursecondact.com.

LISTEN to the How To Quit Your Job and Start A Business Podcast!
https://secondactsuccess.co/listen

LET’S CONNECT!
Instagram - https://instagram.com/secondactsuccess
LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/in/shan...

Transcript

Second Act Success Career Podcast

Season 1 - She Left the NFL, Then Built a Real Estate Brand Athletes Trust with Brooke Kromer | #213

Episode - #213

Host: Shannon Russell

Guest: Brooke Kromer

Transcription (*created by Descript and may not be perfectly accurate) 

[00:00:00] 

Sometimes your dream job can change and an even better opportunity lands in your lap.

I am about to introduce you to Brooke Kromer. A former NFL Sports Reporter turned real estate trailblazer, who is carving out a niche helping athletes and coaches make strategic real estate investments.

Shannon Russell: Are you ready to quit your nine to five job and start a business of your own? Well, you're in the right place, my friend. Welcome to the second Act Success podcast. I am your host Shannon Russell, and my mission is to help you produce your best life. This podcast will teach you how to get from where you are now to where you want to be and how to build a business that fits your life and lights you up.

Let's get started.

Hello, welcome. Brooke Kromer to the podcast. I'm so excited to have you here. 

Brooke Kromer: Yes, thank you for having me. This is so fantastic. 

Shannon Russell: You have such a career [00:01:00] spanning so many different industries and worlds.

I wanna start from the beginning, Brooke. So where did you start off wanting your career to go? 

Brooke Kromer: Grew up in an NFL family, so my dad and brother, both coach in the NFL, , we grew up, I mean, that was our whole entire world. When you're in the NFL, you are just support, the whole family is in support of your dad.

Mm-hmm. So we moved around a and really only knew football. 'Cause our lives were surrounded. It was just. All encapsulating the NFL. So every weekend was spent going to the home games, , away games. We would just be supporting my mom 'cause she would be a single mom those weekends. So it was really a family dynamic and being that way.

We only knew football, so I thought that my only career options were really in the NFL. So in the beginning I did a ton of internships. My dad was huge on getting into the internships with the teams he was with. So I was interning [00:02:00] with the New Orleans Saints when I was six. Team and then whatever team he would coach for, he would kind of bring me in and find the woman that I could work with and that could show me the ropes.

And I thought I wanted to do operations in the NFL. Realized that that was kind of all over the place. It was different with every team. And I was like, all right, I want something that's like gonna be, , fulfilling for me in every team, no matter what. Position so I found sports broadcast and fell in love watching, you know, Erin Andrews go out there and kill it on the sideline.

So I started following Laura Oakman and we were doing Galvanize and I would train with her. I mean, I think I started that when I was 16 years old, , just worked on building confidence and building, you know what, what you need to be on TV and watching tape with my dad. I mean, I grew up watching tape with my dad, so I knew the X's and O's of football.

Really I thought I was gonna be the next Saturday Andrews. I was like, this is. Set in stone, it's gonna be great. So I [00:03:00] go to college for it. Worked for SEC Network on campus at Texas a and m 12th Man Productions. , and had a ball, loved it did on camera for, , pre-game for baseball games.

, and then produced a lot as well, because anybody that's on camera knows you don't just. Get there and get on camera right away. You have to learn everything behind the scenes as well. So I did a lot of producing, a lot of editing, all of that. , and I just fell in love with it. I absolutely loved it. , graduated from college and I always wanted to live in LA and my parents were like, you're not moving to la.

And then the Los Angeles ramps called my dad and my brother and we're like, you guys are moving to la. So my mom gets the call, it was two months before I graduated college and I was like, mom, I'm moving home. So we all moved out to LA together. I got a job with Fox. Sports, , worked on a lot of production side of things, then worked my way to NFL network.

That was my dream network. I loved it so [00:04:00] much every single day. Walking into that building was a dream. , worked with, you know, all of these. Legends, Kurt Warner and, , MJD and all these guys that I got to make their videos for them. They would always come to me and be like, all right, you know, football, you're gonna make my videos.

So I would sit there and do the x's and o videos with them and just how to ball. , 

Shannon Russell: you grew up in football, you know what you're talking about. You're not just someone who goes out there and wants to be on camera reporting like you know the sport, you know the game inside and out.

So who better to do it? 

Brooke Kromer: Yeah, I loved it because it felt like, you know, I was with my family, , that's all we ever did was watch football, talk about football. Even in the off season, you know, coaches don't really get a true off season, so it's still all football all the time. It really just felt like.

That was just my life and it was amazing and I loved every second of it. 

Shannon Russell: So you're at the NFL. , How long were you there and tell me about like actually reaching that, that dream position that you [00:05:00] wanted. 

Brooke Kromer: LA did NFL network, Fox Sports that I did that for about four or five years out there.

, but really my whole career spanning over 10 years just doing SEC network and everything in college as well. I worked with the draft network and did a lot more on camera stuff there. , the world changed a little bit and, they, they had to go different directions and I was not gonna get my NFL network opportunity that I thought I was gonna get.

And that's kind of when I took my second act and went into real estate. 

Shannon Russell: so how was that then? Because I know I've spoken to people, I went through it myself. Sometimes you are given a life opportunity. Or a challenge or something happens and either you truly embrace it or you struggle with it for a little bit and you have to try to reinvent yourself.

What was that like, that transition period for you? Were you excited to figure out what was next? Were you a little bit lost, like I was, you know? Tell me about that process of thinking , okay, [00:06:00] I'm going to start over now I'm gonna figure out what's next for me. 

Brooke Kromer: Luckily it was during COVID. , , And I feel like this is gonna be a story of a lot of people, you had finally that time to step back.

NFL network, we all got the call that we were gonna be furloughed. Not sure when the NFL was even gonna be able to play again, like it's very much a contact sport. So the world was just in such, this. Disarray and we didn't know what was gonna happen. I was living in la it was crazy out there during COVID and I was like, I can't sit inside anymore. I was like, I'm gonna go to the beach house in Florida it was just our family beach house. And sat on the porch here and I just did everything I could to stay in the game.

I was listening to women's smits from ESPN, , just watching my old tape, making new demo reels, just doing everything I could to just be like, okay, when this is over. I'm gonna hit the ground running and I'm gonna go. And this one day I was sitting in one of the ESPN smits on Zoom, and I just [00:07:00] realized like, what am I doing?

Like what am I chasing? You know, I had this huge dream, but is it really fulfilling me? And I was living in LA and I was young and. It was, it's a lot living in LA when you're young and also trying to be on tv and there's so many different pressures, especially now in the age of social media.

, just kind of had this realization that maybe my dream wasn't actually what I expected it to be. , I was doing all of this, I was having so much fun in the moments, I was loving it, but then it was, it was always this rat race of,

you have to be doing something at all times but it wasn't. Going where I expected it to go, I guess. Then I just sat back and I was like, well, what else do I love? And I knew I always wanted to do real estate after my sports reporting career, so I thought I was gonna be 50 years old and pushed off camera, which happens in the broadcast world sometimes.

And then I would do my real estate career then, and I would use all my NFL connections and I was like. Wait, I have [00:08:00] all of this already. What am I waiting for? So I called my friend down here who sells real estate, and I was like, Hey, I think I wanna just shadow you and just see what real estate is about.

I met up with her the next day and she goes, I knew you were in town. I knew you love real estate. I was gonna see if you wanted to come shadow me this smer, and I was like, okay, this is God. Just like plucking me up and placing me where I needed to be and speaking through this woman.

I mean, it was just crazy and I was like, okay. I guess I'm doing this. So she talked me into getting my real estate license. She was like, you can always go back to NFL network and still send me referrals and still get paid because you have your real estate license. So that's what I thought I was gonna do.

I started shadowing her. COVID kept going and going and going. And Florida was really the only open place. So everyone was flocking here to buy real estate. So the real estate market was going insane, which was a really fun time to get into it. 'cause I could see what it would truly be like in a crazy market.

And I just fell in love. I mean, also, you know the paycheck you get and you're like, okay, I worked [00:09:00] three jobs in LA and this is way more than I made all year working those three jobs in la. Alright, you know, I think I'm gonna check out this real estate thing and joined their team. And I mean, it has blossomed since then.

When you really love what you do, it doesn't even feel like work. It's my life now \ I absolutely love it. So it wasn't really like a, like a hard transition. It was just all exciting. 'cause it just kept going. It just kept evolving.

It wasn't like a hard stop. Because COVID, I mean, everyone was stopped. So it wasn't like I was, I felt alone in that moment, which was really nice. 

Shannon Russell: No, and I don't, I love to know if you can relate to how I felt with it is that when I left television, I looked at it like, wow, there's so few people who get the opportunities that I had and who made it as far as I did, and I wanted to celebrate that and say, gosh, I accomplished that.

So I checked the box and I said, now I wanna go into business for myself. I have a feeling that you felt the same way. Like you got to do so much. You have your [00:10:00] contacts, the experience. Did you feel any of that? Like, yes, you checked the box and now this was the next adventure for you?

Brooke Kromer: Absolutely. I mean, the memories I have from sports broadcast are crazy. Like I said, making those videos for these Hall of Fame guys, just feeling that they trusted me and that they trusted my football knowledge was one of the coolest things. 'cause really that's all I loved was the knowledge of the game and

deep diving into it. I found out that that's what I truly love. Not just being on camera, but really like diving into the game and I got to do that and that was so special. And then just the memories, I mean, I got to go to the ESPYs all the time. I still get to go to the Super Bowl parties and the.

Maxim parties with all of the players and I probably would've had those connections anyways just growing up in the NFL, but to make them for myself, it just felt really rewarding because it was like, okay, it wasn't just my family connections. Now I'm out there making these connections and I was actually introducing guys to my dad.

Oh yeah, this is my dad. He is an NFL coach. And they're like, how is the [00:11:00] daughter introducing us to him? How do we not know him? So. It was just fun. I mean, all the experiences and then being on television, being on camera, and having those memories someday to show my kids like, look, you can, you can chase your dreams and you can meet your dreams way.

Younger in life and then still have this fulfilling career afterwards. I feel like life, you just, it's just this continuous, you're learning about yourself and you're figuring out what you wanna do and the dreams you have as a kid might not actually be the dreams you have as an adult.

That was really cool, to realize like. Yeah. Life doesn't just stop when you reach your dreams. Now you can have new dreams and have more success in a different market than you never thought you would before 

Shannon Russell: a thousand percent. And I think that's what's so exciting for us and for the next generation coming up, that it's not just that one thing that you're going to follow until retirement because you can accomplish it or realize, ooh, this isn't really for me.

Let me pivot. Let me start something [00:12:00] new. And I just have to ask about your father. Is he still with the Rams? He is with the Buffalo Bills and my brother's 

Brooke Kromer: still 

Shannon Russell: with the Rams. How exciting. So what did they think when you decided to kind of officially leave working in the industry and try something new?

Were they supportive? 

Brooke Kromer: They were so excited for me. Yeah, my dad absolutely loves my life now for me because in the NFL, I mean, it's seven months of the year that's in during season that you can't do anything. So I missed out on, my friends' weddings, bachelorette parties, baby showers, all of these moments that I really wanted to be there for my friends and family.

That you just can't, and that's just something you accept taking the job. And I knew that, so I wasn't sad about it, but now looking back, I'm like, wow, you know, I didn't even realize what I was truly missing out on. So my dad is always like, we'll be sitting at lunch here and I'll be answering emails on my phone or be like, Hey, I gotta take this call.

And like I can see his pride in his face. He's like, wow, the life you built for yourself is even [00:13:00] better than you ever could have expected. And he's like, I just love that you can., Have the freedom to come to lunch with me and you can still get work done. Or I can go to the beach and I can be answering emails on the beach.

You know, just this life that is so fulfilling and so successful, but also it's a good balance. Right? And he never had that working 17 hour days in the NFL. They love it for me because. S they're still in that NFL life working 17 hour days and they're seeing me flourish like this.

They're a little jealous. My dad's like, okay, I wanna come work for you. You have this just fun life. And now I have the freedom to travel to their games too, which is so special. And my brother has two babies that I can go out and see whenever I want. It's really cool how it's evolved and yeah.

They love it for me. They're so proud. 

Shannon Russell: And yes, you've got the flexibility to do that. So you are, you still have your foot in that world and you're, , living this new world. Are you using a lot of the skills maybe, that you [00:14:00] learned from working with the teams in the NFL now building your team and using your connections in real estate?

Brooke Kromer: Absolutely. Yeah. My dad. Growing up taught us the pyramid of success from John Wooden, and we read that every day. We had the poster on our wall. We had to read one and live by it during the days. Just this team mentality has really just been. Ingrained in me my whole life and I've watched him build teams and draft players that fit certain things.

And knowing how to build the team is, it's not gonna be, every player has the same skillset. You have to build a team around, okay, I'm good at this. What am I not good at? And I'm gonna bring someone on on my team that's good at and just really building this. Team of all of these different types of personalities and different types of people and skill sets and making it to where everyone has that same vision and that same goal so you can push forward for success.

[00:15:00] And that's helped me so much build a team at such a young age because. Without that knowledge and without that training and seeing my dad do it his whole life, I don't think that I would have the success that I do. And working for the teams now, I have all of these connections of players all over the country and the NFL is, it's such a small little fraternity mm-hmm.

Of people, but we're all spread out across the country. And so you go to a new team and you're with a couple guys that you worked with. In the past. You rekindle with all of these people. , and the NFL combine, I love going to, , it's all the coaches come in to watch the guys that are going into the draft.

So I go sit at a bar and all of my old friends they're basically like family are all sitting there with you. , You're rekindling with all these guys around the NFL and now I'm getting, I'm getting so many sales because of that, because I go up there and I'm really just passionate about 30 a.

I love where I live. I love where I sell hard not to love it when it's this [00:16:00] beautiful and I post on Instagram all the time, videos and drone shots and all of that. I just literally just fly my drone all day. 'cause it's like the best marketing is. The beauty of this place. And so I get in a room with all these guys and they're like, alright, how do I live there?

How do I rent my property out? What are the benefits like? And there's so many benefits for NFL players and coaches because they are gone for so much of the year that they can rent their house out and just make money while they're working. It's the perfect. Blend of luxury vacation but also a good investment for them.

So it really has worked out beautifully. Now I am with sports and entertainment divisions and , just really try and find these guys, especially 'cause they're so young, you realize as I get older, they used to be all older than me, like big brothers, and now they're all like. Younger than me and I'm like, okay, we need to use your money wisely.

Let's get you a beach house that's gonna make you money all the time. Mm-hmm. And you're gonna watch that asset appreciate. [00:17:00] So it's really fun for me to know where they are in life and kind of meet them where they are in life and what their needs are. Because I saw it growing up and. Been in this life, so I know what they need.

Right. Uh, so it's really fun for me because it doesn't feel like I'm just selling them a house. I can advise them, financially of what to do with their money, their tax benefits from it, and all of this. And just something that I didn't expect getting into real estate.

, just this passion that I have for just helping these guys 'cause they're my friends and I want them to be successful too. It's really fun. That's, I think, the most rewarding part. 

Shannon Russell: And I never thought about that , you can sell a house to anyone, but you're selling to people that you know, and you know how it'll benefit them in the long run.

Like you said, they can rent it out and then they can come enjoy it in the off season and it's just a win-win. So tell me about your business now. And how, if any listeners want to connect with you and work with you, what is it, , you offer in the area that you're in, in [00:18:00] Florida as well?

Brooke Kromer: I started out shadowing her and immediately joined their team. I was like, I love this. This is so great. , and just started selling way more than I expected in a young age because real estate's hard, especially when you're just starting out. But , I really hit the niche down here. I mean, I have so many friends and family just growing up, coming down here, and my family's really connected in the community down here.

So I didn't even realize how many people we knew, but we know the whole town. So the sales just started coming in and I was like, wow, okay. I, I can really do this. So I broke off from that team that I started with and started a team with just one woman. And I, , and she was older, so. So I was really leaning on her for a lot of knowledge.

She was leaning on me for a lot of the social media and media side of things. 'cause that's been so huge in real estate now, which has really helped with my on camera ability. Yeah. And I was on a panel speaking about it the other day. They're like, how do you, how, how do you get on camera and just do this?

I'm like, well, I worked since I was [00:19:00] 16, but. Reps. That's all it is. , so I worked with her for a while and then I just started realizing like, alright, I can do this. I can start my own team. I've built my, my name for myself, which is how I chose Kromer Collective as our team name because I built really this brand around, , name and just.

Getting out there and the sports side of things and my family connections and ties to the community and everything. , Alright, what better way to brand than a name that's already really well known down here. So I was like, all right, I just want in the beginning, some really cool women that wanna work hard, that maybe they don't have all of the real estate answers. And that's okay because that's where I'm here to guide them. Just to build this women that really wanna be part of a brand that has a vision for success, but also has a vision of like.

I'm gonna take care of you. have Casey on my team and she's a single mom. She has two girls at home. She has stuff on her plate and it's, she's going to dance [00:20:00] competitions. It's like, okay, if you're out of town, I've got your back. If I'm out of town I do a lot of my marketing on the road, going to these games and just talking organically to the coaches and players and just reminding them like, Hey, come check out 30A this smer.

You know? , But I know that she's got my back while I'm here. , so I really just wanted to build this team around just collaboration and also really having the same vision, having the same wants, but just caring about each other and caring about our clients really, because I don't want anyone on my team that truly doesn't love this job.

'cause it shows so quickly and that's when you stop caring about the. The clients. And if you're worried about the commission too much, you're in the wrong business. Like, we're here to help people and advise people. So I've built my, my team around that.

I'm really figuring out what the team is and what we need, and so hoping to bring on some more. Like-minded people this year with different skill talents than [00:21:00] we have. , brought on a woman, Jen Daniels from Nashville who crushes it in sports up there. She does a lot of NHL, , some NFL. So kind of partnering with that Nashville area because there's such a feeder market for us, and kind of just expanding my business that way, which has been really interesting. 'cause A lot of teams down here don't do it. They don't bring on people from different towns and different cities that are feeding to our market. Right. So I kind of feel like that's a pretty cool asset that we have and.

Hoping to grow that side as well. 

Shannon Russell: That is so interesting. And thinking outside of the box, thinking about your reputation and what you want for your business and what you wanna be known for and giving back to the community. You don't wanna be bringing people into the community that don't fit there either, you really got your eye on what's going to work for the collective moving forward.

Brooke Kromer: Yeah, and I attend all the events down here knowing that. I'm gonna put myself out into the community for our brand, , because I can.

Mm-hmm. And that's what a lot of women come up to me [00:22:00] and they're like, I can't go to all these events. I have family, I have this. I'm like, well then just find your niche, find what works for you. You know, you don't have to be out. Every time. That's just what works for me because I don't have a family yet.

But once I do, then I'm sure I'm just gonna be spending more time on Facebook, answering messages while I'm spending time with my family. , things like that. It's, it's just evolving to what works for you and your time of life. there's something to sell for everyone, which is great.

All right, it's time for our five fast cues of the week. Here we go.

Shannon Russell: name one thing that these different chapters in your life have taught you. 

Brooke Kromer: I think just adaptability, and I think that was something that I was also taught as a kid, but now seeing it, evolve in careers and different careers and moving, , you just have to adapt to everything.

I, I call myself a chameleon because basically anyone I'm talking to, I can find something that we're alike in and I try and find that right away. , just adapting to your [00:23:00] surroundings and your careers. Sports broadcast is completely different than real estate, so you're just adapting to this new lifestyle.

So adaptation I think is really important. 

Shannon Russell: Now, would you recommend taking a leaf into a big life change to your best friend? 

Brooke Kromer: Absolutely. Oh my gosh. I think it's the most rewarding thing you can do for yourself because you're challenging yourself in ways that you wouldn't if you just stayed where you are.

, and that's when you grow as a han and as a friend, truly too. Mm-hmm. 

Shannon Russell: Absolutely. So what is one piece of advice that you would give to someone who's about to start a second act? I would say just 

Brooke Kromer: dive in head first, go hard, just mm-hmm. Learn everything you can. , take the classes, say yes to any opportunity that's thrown your way.

Don't look back. I, I did so many classes. I went to Ninja, I did the things online. I mean, I read all the books and it's just educating yourself so you can be the. [00:24:00] Master in your, in your career at your craft. 

Shannon Russell: Yes. And I think for my listeners who might be teetering on, do I wanna start that business?

Am I going to make this change? Learning before you leap is something I always say on the show, because the more you learn, the more confident you are. And we should always continue to be learning more and I think just as far as real estate. You don't have to start your own real estate business right away.

You can get your license, you can start working under someone else. Thinking about real estate, if someone is listening and they wanna get into real estate, what is your advice on maybe, you know, dipping your toe into that industry? 

Brooke Kromer: Yes. I would say start by shadowing someone. , just ask your friend if you know someone in real estate or even just go to your local real estate office there's typically a recruiter.

Let them know like, Hey, I'm interested. , just start shadowing somebody. Get your license right away. 'cause what can that hurt? I mean, you have your real estate license. Amazing. Even if you don't go into it, you still have your license. get it right away. Just [00:25:00] study and then. Definitely get in on a team.

Even if it's an assistant role, if it's just starting out as a sales role. There's some brokerages that have you can go in there and they'll train you step by step for new agents. , if the brokerage that you wanna go into doesn't have that, join a team and they will teach you.

People are willing to teach you and also they need some help. They need someone to, answer a phone or answer an email or. , fill in a little contract if you can show them what to do. I mean, just little things like that that you can help. Don't be afraid and ask a team like, Hey, can I help?

Shannon Russell: What does the next act look like for you? What is on the horizon and where do you see yourself in five 10? 

Brooke Kromer: I just wanna keep building. I've fallen in love with building this team and to see the girls on my team that have the passion that I do and that are supportive and loving and fun. , I really want to keep expanding to other cities. I would love to have a full team up in Nashville someday. , I'm open [00:26:00] to other cities as well just looking into that, but I love Nashville. It's so easy to get here, an hour flight and

a lot of our people that live here also live there. So, continuing to build in that way. And also building the NFL side of things. , just actually really started marketing to my NFL contacts a year ago, and it's already. Flourishing into this thing I never expected. So continuing with that as well.

, but as we said before, I mean, I feel like life is always evolving and throwing new things at you. So I'm always just saying yes to opportunities and open to it all, which who knows where it will bring me. 

Shannon Russell: Well, where can everyone connect with you? If someone wants to reach out, learn more about your area and what you do. I post 

Brooke Kromer: all the time on my Instagram. So go to at Brooke Kromer. , Kromer with a K

twitter. I talk all sports. So I also host a sports betting show still on Sunday mornings, , with my friends at FTN Network for DraftKings.

So if you wanna know any [00:27:00] sports betting, fun things or anything about the bills or rams, it's all over my Twitter at Brooke Kromer, , and building my YouTube in TikTok now, it's all at Brooke Kromer. Pretty easy to find,

Shannon Russell: that's great, Brooke.

I'm gonna link to everything in the show notes. I just love your transition and everything that you're building and thank you so much for sharing everything with us on the show. 

Brooke Kromer: Thank you so much. I, I feel like I learned something new about myself even when I do these types of shows.

'cause you're just talking about it and you're like, oh yeah. That's pretty cool that I did that in the past. It really makes you sit back and think about your life and realize things and learning about you as well . So thank you for having me. It was so much fun. 

Shannon Russell: Absolutely.

Thank you.

Thank you for joining us. I hope you found some gems of inspiration and some takeaways to help you on your path to second act, success. To view show notes from this episode, visit second act success.co. Before you go, don't forget to subscribe to the podcast so you [00:28:00] don't miss a single episode. Reviews only take a few moments and they really do mean so much.

Thank you again for listening. I'm Shannon Russell. And this is second act success.